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MINUTES April 13, 2000 5 BOARD OF HEALTH it, you wouldn't necessarily be doubling their rate if they recycled because you would actually be pulling some of their waste removal. Rather than having ten yards of trash each week you would be having eight yards of trash. They would just have to pay for the other truck to come through in a lower co-mingle at half of what the trash disposal is so in the long run if they got their people involved in it they would probably profit. One of the trash haulers stated that at a condominium in Oster-Ville the association. They whole group wanted to do it. They built whole little sections for the newspaper, plastic and glass. They charge them $2.00 per barrel. However, the town doesn't charge them to dispose of the material. If they did there wouldn't be any profit in it. Mr. Ball then asked how this was going to effect them if the Town made recycling mandatory. The last trash haulers to speak stated that it would kill them. The Browning and Ferris and U.S.A. Waste will have to be willing to do it for everyone and keep their rates down. Mr. Ball then stated that what he meant was that it would be mandatory for the residents in the town which would be inclusive of the condominiums. The same trash hauler then suggested that if the Town made it a law. He stated that the Town might have to help finance it. The state dropped making it a law because of the cost involved to the state. The stated determined that they couldn't enforce the law. Once it is made cost effective with the Federal and State government involved in recycling then it will become profitable. If you can make money or make it interesting to people then they will buy into it. He provided the following example: He charges his customers $2.00. They don't need a sticker. They can go right to the landfill and they don't charge them to enter. He then changes their service schedule to an every other week service because they have less trash. That saves them money in their trash costs. But, It has to be people that are serious about recycling. Another trash hauler stated that the customers he usually gets are the ones that don't want to load the trash into their cars and take it to the transfer station. They don't want to be inconvenienced. Some of the transfer stations are a little aggressive. The transfer station personnel will go through their bags to see if they are recycling or not. The people don't want them to go through their mail, etc. Another trash hauler asked if the by-laws were going to be inclusive of a flat rate. He asked Elias McQuaid to explain what is meant by a "flat rate". Ms. Warden responded by explaining, for example, that if Mr. Macomber offers to pick the recyclable material. He has to pick the recyclable at the same price as the regular bag of trash. He cannot make the price higher for the recyclable material. One of the trash haulers then stated, for example, if he has customers that don't have the recycling program and the Town of Mashpee makes the program mandatory. He will have go up $4.00 per month. Some people will refuse to recycle regardless of cost and others will just look to other vendors.