12/3/1980 CONSERVATION COMMISSION Minutes

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-17- r �. P'r.. Xuebler; 4:ho did you tal': with, Charlie? . C :arles Bob Terry and he indicated that he would be responsible for this par- area. The clear indication was t;:at they didn 't want to be involved be- fore because they would be the ones to make some sort of a judgement or decision afterwards, They felt that if they made any suggestions at a time prior, they would be more or less prejudicing themselves and prejudicing the whole thing. I feel that the best that we can do is take all of what you are intending to do and sub,ait it and submit what we feel about it in an Order of Conditions and let it go up to them. Kr. nuebler: I think that is what we are asking. We are asking either of two things: that you act under an emergency provision or you go ahead and issue an Order of Conditions. The last time that the Conservation Committee responded with this kind of a problem in our property in t4ashpee, that's exactly what happened. You people said that you were in agreement. We could put suitable fill to stabil- ize the bank that was eroding badly on the golf course, re were going to put some stone there. The local Conservation Committee agreed to that. It went up to DE, and they overruled your order. We ended up going to a pre-trial 'nearing. I think the action has to be taken to get them involved. I an a little surprised that they wouldn't have taken your invitation to come down because there are an awful lot of reasons to believe that if they are saying that there are no physical structures that are going to be permitted to handle bank erosion, then they have the respon- sibility to come up with two alternatives. '.:e are not talking about golf courses any more. We are talking about houses and there is at least one private owner out there now that is very concerned about his house. I can see a serious Northeaster .jeopardizing that piece of property. Wayne: 'Mho's this? Mr. Savory: That is that cottage 12. Charles: What it boils down to is that DEQE is not willing to commit themselves until they get something. ",r. Ssvorv: I hope I am not speaking out of turn; but I got the impression when I talked with them too that they are hesitant to react to us as individuals. Pauline: They don't consider it an emergency. They want us to go through the Drocedure -- the notice of intent, the order of conditions. And we cannot issue an order of conditions until we have that number, When did you talk to John Lawrence? Mr. Savorv: It was November 12, 1980. a.vne: As-' s about the stone revetment. Y.uebler: We don't believe the logical way to do that kind of stabilization is to ru_, a stone revetment up the bank (based upon the evidence that we have in Trighton Sounds and we have in ; aushop on 50 percent or more of the bank). We would be considering a toe-stone mound and then filling in. :avne: Vat's fine. That would leave stone revetment for an alternative. The only t'nin� that bothers me about that is that vertical slope as it erodes. (Asks Charlie what the measure.ment is)