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idea of cost and be able to demonstrate there are realistic ways to deal with this. <br /> Mr. wood said the costs in his memo are very rough. There is not much difference in cost bet 4" <br /> and " force main. A lot of the cost is the trench, labor and police detail, compared to the pipe <br /> itself Municipal systems need 2 of everything for backup and emergency power source. <br /> Amount of land needed for open sand filters: maximum the State will accept is 5 gallons per sq <br /> foot per day for sand filter beds. Land costs have to be factored in. Sub surface systems take <br /> more land. <br /> Pipe size is very important for gravity system, not important for pressure system, issue becomes <br /> how often you run the pump. <br /> Toni asked what if there is not enough flow? Mr. Wood said the issue is how to get the pipe to <br /> empty out. They are all design detail issues. <br /> DISCUSSION WITH ANDY GOTT EEB <br /> Torn explained we have been talking about taking effluent from plants, like Mashpee Commons <br /> and Talania.n, and letting them treat it at those locations but pipe the effluent down towards <br /> Nantucket Sound. <br /> "form asked Andy if he thinks this is a concept the DEP would find acceptable? <br /> Andy Gottlieb thinks it would be. <br /> Tom said DEP will not allow individual lots to be tied into a privately owned treatment facility. <br /> If the disposal area is publically owned would that present a problem, financing problem and <br /> security for maintenance? <br /> Andy discussed the financing: <br /> The first rule of the program is the facility has to be publically owned for his program to finance <br /> it. Fee ownership has to be with the municipality, <br /> Brad said can the pipeline be owned by the municipality and the treatment plant privately <br /> owned? <br /> Andy said the anser is yes if your not looking for us to finance the plant. <br /> Torn asked if they would provide financing for the town to purchase a private system? <br /> Andy said it would depend on the circumstances. The ranking criteria would determine it. <br /> Duncan Wood asked, in a community with failing septic systems, vs. a community with <br /> functioning systems but nitrate loading in water(river) would points be given to the community <br /> with nitrate loading problems. <br /> Andy said was the program was re- written last year with a new point system which would pick <br /> up non point source projects. They have completely changed the ranking system. <br /> Torn asked if that type of project has been funded, in this years round? <br /> Andy said not yet, there were not a lot of projects in the pipeline that addressed this issue. <br /> Toni said Mashpee's nutrient study did not score very high . <br /> Andy said generally planning and design projects rank lower as a class - 10% of the funds went <br />