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MINUTES February 4, 1999 4 BOARD OF HEALTH schools by starting with the kids because changing adult's habits are tough and the results will not be seen in 2 or 3 years." "The sticker issue has always been a hot topic and we always strive to keep it low and I understand we have failed to meet the gentlemen's agreement of 50-50. The cost that you don't see and can't factor into is how much more trash ends up in the woods." "You have qualified it by saying this is very preliminary but I don't understand the estimated cost for disposal being less." "I don't see this unless the hauler had some secret place he was taking it to that was real cheap, for the Town has a bargain rate locked in with SEMASS." "A commercial hauler is going to pay more to dispose of that waste." "If all we are doing is shifting waste from the municipal station to a commercial hauler, the volume has not changed only who is hauling has." "I can't see the cost going down." "Another serious matter we have to look at is our contractual obligations to SEMASS and Upper Cape Regional Transfer Station." "We helped to build it and also fund its operation." "For us to bailout, I don't know if we can cleanly." "There is also a mix up in terms." "Curbside collection is not pay as you throw." "Pay as you throw is a well-defined national model for waste disposal and to mix the two is not fair." "Are we talking about private, commercial, or developing a municipal fleet of trash trucks and what is the cost there." "Everyone would love curbside, they don't have to drive to the transfer station but then what do we do with the transfer station?" "There is a substantial investment there and how many years before we recoup the loss of that investment." "I am not against it but there are a lot of questions and a lot of things to look at." Mr. Leveille noted, "As you were talking you recited 6 or 7 reasons and I had some immediate responses to each but the real response is a group to address it for it is worth pursuing." Mr. Ball asked, "If on the residential sticker prices there was a recommendation to up the cost and if all the Selectmen were for it:" Mr. Levielle responded, "Whether or not the fees go up is really the Board of Health's decision." "He further stated, "Basically I am here to appeal to the Board to take advantage of what might be a good opportunity for the community long range if we get together and do something about this." "We have to start planning now." "Many of the apprehensions don't pan out to be as serious as people think they are if addressed as they go along." "For example, illegal dumping." "If part of your program is a strong enforcement one, this helps to address that problem." Mr. McQuaid stated, "One thing not included in the worksheet is the fact that if we do go to curbside, we will still need the transfer station for bulky waste." Mr. Doherty asked, "For what, open 3 days?" Mr. McQuaid noted, "You can't take the transfer station operation dollars divided by 352 and say we'll only go for 2 or 3 days because it doesn't work that way."