4/14/2015 WASTE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE Minutes

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Catherine: Based on the information from Winchester is something that the whole committee wants to compare then we can put it on the agenda for next meeting. Personally as a committee member I think there would be significant costs. Because what they found in Winchester, you have to segregate the two systems so we need separate areas where the PAYT pilot program, they are disposing of their bags. Voice?: You know, I think it is most unfair to you, Catherine, to... Joyce: If you are going to attack Catherine, this is her job and I asked her to look at what she felt the costs would be. That's my job as her supervisor. And it's my job to recommend to the Board where I see a potential cost. Voice? And it's my job to think out of the box, like I'm supposed to be doing. Joyce: But I'm just saying, you're being critical of the two of us and we are looking at it from a different perspective. Voice?: I am looking at your statement from the newspaper, okay, you're simply saying that a dual system would be too costly. I am presenting this now, and I am showing that it's not going to cost us a dime. Mike: So, can we continue that way with this, does that make sense, right now it's a dead issue, there is nothing we can do to make it happen, it is what it is. Catherine will photo copy and send to all of us and we'll have a further discussion on this and if you want to pursue the individual from Winchester to give us a written outline, or if he can come down here I don't know. Mike: Let's move forward. First of all, it's not a lot of issues. We will readdress the issue. I wanted to present to you folks the facts as Catherine got from the DPW in Winchester about the program you had recommended. That's what she's done. And therefore you've looked at it, you still want to have a conversation with the individual with it, we'll see what we can do. But I thought it was important that you have the facts, relative to the costs so that when you talk to the individual, you have an idea of what you are getting into. That's all. Other towns are coming up with ideas and great programs as well. But what we are showing here is something that is not necessarily looking at face value as a positive. So, we are taking it to the next step. Who knows? I wanted you to have the information. I have a question. Glenn: The reason I came on this committee was the PAYT. I was supervisor at the Barnstable Transfer Station for a number of years, and there isn't anything in the solid waste business that I don't know about, that I didn't have to deal with. And I also ran a pilot program in Barnstable for PAYT for 2 years. And I apologize for my first meeting coming here but I didn't want you guys to see me down here incoherently because I was on pain pills after shoulder surgery. But there are a lot of factors that need to be taken in to consideration before you can consider PAYT, okay? And one of them is financial. Years ago I was on the Board of Health in Mashpee and we ran the transfer station. And we were always talking about going enterprise account, making a full cost. Back then the stickers were going to be about $190 if we were going to go enterprise. I don't know what it would be right now I imagine it is going to be a heck of a lot more. Also talking about PAYT, if we don't want to put the burden on the town and have the town subsidize, then we need to make PAYT take a bigger chunk. Granted, we will make people recycle more but in ways recycling costs you money. Maybe not as much, but it still costs you money. Joyce: $4.00 less a ton but you're reducing that tonnage which saves money on another contract. Glenn: The way I used to have my budget run and I'm sure you guys have the same program, unis and has the same breakdown. But when you have your breakdown you have to have your 16 Great Neck Road Norlh • Mashpee,MA • 02649 10 phone:508.539.1400 • fax:508.539.0954 • email:mis@ci.mashpee.ma.us m:lmy documentsWaste Mgmt Verbatim.doc