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4/3/1986 CONSERVATION COMMISSION Executive Session
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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
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04/03/1986
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Y <br /> A <br /> Conservation Commission <br /> Executive Session <br /> April 3 , 1986 <br /> Page 4. <br /> Stan Hu ph i s_speaking - continued : <br /> ued <br /> The proposal for the wall i s still being worked on. So, i t is something to <br /> deep in mind for the future that the project is going. to come back. As far <br /> as I could tell , the portions of the beach that have rip- rap or some structures <br /> protecting land above are not doing that bad of a ,fob for that land that por- <br /> tion of the wall i s in front. However, on adjacent sides of those walls the <br /> bank is increasing. Al-so, in front on the seaward side of these l o' ati ons <br /> where there are walls , there is virtually no beach, no sandy beach , there is <br /> all rock. The process that has taken place there is a reflection of weight <br /> energy downward and sands moving offshore. A very easy observation to make <br /> the day I went out there on the beach there was a lot of sand there and there <br /> was cross country ski marks on the beach. I never thought of that as a rec- <br /> reational use of the beach but the point here is they can only come so far <br /> in this direction and had to stop because there isn ' t any beach, only rocks. <br /> It is an important recreational facility to maintain out there and the sooner <br /> the orders of conditions are granted then they can provide the sand for the <br /> beach which I think is better for everybody. Do you have any questions that <br /> I right answer? <br /> Pauline DeLory: On the sand nourishment, d you consider that a mai me-nam <br /> to be done every year? <br /> Stan Humphries: Well , it's actually going to have to be done for the amount <br /> that they are talking about. Realistically , I think they are going to have <br /> to do it twice a ,year as they proposed. The one part of the project I really <br /> felt uncomfortable about was them having the freedom for thea to come in and <br /> do it with an impending storm. I mean , what's an impending storm? Is it a <br /> tropical depres i n that starts up way down in the "a ri bbean <br /> Pauline Del ory; The Order of Condi ti ons only lasts three ears . <br /> Stan Humphries : That' s true, that' s a very good point in terms of perhaps <br /> letting them give it a try and see how it goes and have at the end of that <br /> time some substantial reason to suggest that the project not go forward. <br /> Eliot Rosenberg : It is ray understanding that D.E.Q. F. was going to issue <br /> this. for a much longer period than three years . I was t the hearing with <br /> Y <br /> Barry Fogel , I .have never seen what came out of it, but I was at that- beariong <br /> and he indicated very clearly that they were going to give the order, or iie <br /> was thinking of the order for the longest l egal l v pons i bl e period. <br /> Stan Humphries ; Well , that is where I pul l out the rags with Brett Burdick <br /> and that is clearly in the regulations . I think there is some l eewa.y that <br /> the department has in extending a period for longer, but this is ghat w <br /> came out of that meeting with. <br /> Eliot Rosenberg :b r : I have another question , why can't the 1i nal order be <br /> worked out so that whatever has to be done with 316 and whatever~ is going <br /> to be dome with 395 be done at the sane time and then it becomes , by neg- <br /> otiation or however, it become an order of this commission rather than <br /> D*E. . E. and then we have direct enforcement rights. I thunk that this <br />
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