8/10/2006 BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE Minutes

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The Town Planner said that he was tiring to tale care of people who have had lots for years and that they wanted to be able to do something with them and it was tied up so that they couldn't build on then. He said that most old subdivisions were no-longer=buildable regarding grandfathering. Zella F-li;zembex :styled,-to the"TQwnYI ner..tbat the,,:.owners,werir,,,stfll-getting-tau,bis��.:...... the lots and that it got back to equt r.. The vice Chair said_that the.Z,B.A..had legal counsel and he didn't know it that was what was going on, The Town Planner said a lot sold in 1971 with a building pmt was buildable then,but not now-and he said that grandfathering was in the state division. The Chaiaman asked that out of roughly 600 buildable lots left, how many cases where therewith individuals that.bought•in,subdividisions,,-,for-,whatever.reasons,--were,buildin Oti•it themselves? He asked-if there were a handful or significant-nwnber. The Town Planner said that icwas.lcss,.thau'ons.hundred lots.:HQ said.;tha ,ons - - grandfathered lot would by for old subdivisions and that there would still be others that were not protected that were not under the state law. = The Vice Chair asked where it would take the Town environmentally. The Town Planner said that the more built, the more wastewater and traffic. He added that he wanted to clear a legal way of building properties. , Ms. Elizenberry said that she thought there was a lot of iniquity around the whole problem;sh6 said that-.at-the Z.B.A. there were variances at every meeting..,She added that trine times out of ten,those people who had those lots and land for many years,living there, slid net know about the lots and the land.because.people had.never told.thein. The Town Planner said in most states there was no grandfathering. The Vice Chair said that'n the DCPC there was grandfathering and he was worried about environmental issues. Ted Theis said that it seemed to him that the approach was defacto g because there were so few lets in the turn;• a.,= The vice Chair said that he had a problem supporting the cluster development by-laws because,that going through the D P ,one of the reasons that it was written was the climenation of grandfathering. He said that now the grandfathering was taking a 60-degree turn and extending cluster,over-the old-subdivisions, where,there would.be more lets on the market. Now there was no opportunity- The Town Planar said anything new should be abided by the DP . The Chair asked a question if the article could address some of the issues that the vice Chair was bringing up and issues with what the Committee was dealing with, as far as wastewater. He'said he saw a.quid pro quo there,we're giving them something}what are we asking for ilk return? r The.Town Planner said that the cluster by-law would be a prodess of discover,not"Give us money in escrow.".He added that the Tow, h was going to have to bind facilities to-solve water quality problems:-He,said�that-.,it was up..to"the,. oard'of`:Health,to. m e�it and"atoms: Ed Baker, a Mashpee citizen, said.that from,everything he saw regarding waste,water were".the conditions of the waterways and the.Clean'-.Water; pt:that. w two*d be a decision} sooner or later,by theTorn, that 100%of.it was going to need-waste-water treatment to solve the problem." The Town Planner that this solution was dependent on Title 5 and that the Town hada't - been able to control it. Mr. Baker said he had seen redevelopment and development on single,lots on his street and said that this increases water run-off and that all of it went into the storm-drains. He said these-houses,were.1-5W,..from,-Popponemet:Bay-,-..Mr:,Baker also discussed water from a person's garage ring downhill into I1rlashpee River.