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cover which he says was recommended a de-watering time of 3-6 months before the site is covered. <br /> Mr. Bates states that verbally he was told that he should carp but since the last meeting, he has had <br /> other conversations which informed hire that there is no requirement to cap it unless the Commission <br /> wants theca to cap it. Mr. Bates feels that they aright have reached a conclusion after spearing to the <br /> tribe in which they lay some kind of material across the area so they could plant the area as a meadow <br /> with possible apple trees (for the deer). Chairman Fitzsimmons states that they were trying to establish <br /> whether or not this project could get the approval of the Conservation Commission before trying to <br /> figure out how it was going to be done. The Chairman states that he is very much opposed to this <br /> project as he does not want the ruck on conservation lands. Chairman Fitzsimmons would like to ask <br /> the other commissioners how they feel about it before moving to how it will be done. Mr. Sweet says <br /> that his basic question is not how it's being done but why because he doesn't understand the <br /> navigational issues. Mr. Sweet asks how many larger boats would be moved to the northern end of the <br /> Mahpee Fiver into a pristine area which is navigable for short distances by smaller boats but do they <br /> - want motor craft to navigate up to an area of outstanding bird and natural wildlife. Mr. Sweet asks if <br /> there is a need for residents of Mahpee to travel up that river. Mr. Bates explains that he has a small <br /> boat and has been fishing in the area for a long time but it has gotten to the point where he can get up <br /> into the area two hours before high tide and two hours after high tide. During this time, there was a <br /> shoal building across the entrance to the Mahpee River; even now, there are small boats having <br /> difficulty getting into the river(except for the two hours before and after high tide). Mr. Bates says that <br /> they would only be dredging as far north as where the barge would be brought. The Chairman says that <br /> he has no issues with dredging the river but he does not want the mucky spoils on conservation lands. <br /> Mr. Gurnee says they are both conservation ire as <br /> the pristine habitat i to be protected a well a <br /> the lands. Agent McManus states that recreation is one of the values that is protected under the bylaw <br /> but recreational proposals creed to be looked at from a benefit stand point in not only terms of <br /> environmental but ghat seglent of the population is it benefiting?This specific Fparcel of land is very <br /> populrr and people are very passionate about it; they like it the way it i . It needs to be considered a <br /> to how much of the population is it benefiting and the Commission should be prepared to answer that. <br /> Mr. Bates states that he sees it as a benefit to the panel property as there is a depression in the land <br /> that is not usable and it can accommodate the sediment from the dredging which would make a level <br /> usable area for recreation. <br /> Chairman Fitzsimmons asks the other commissioners what they think: <br /> Vice Chairman Shaw says he feels the benefits do not justify project. <br /> Mr. Gurnee says that he does not know why cost is an issue and the concern should be about the <br /> area such as what will happen with the depression: whet will grog there; how it will be restored if it <br /> can be restored; and improving access to the upper river which he says he is not sure should be <br /> done. Mr. Gurnee states that he would be grilling to let the project go ahead. <br /> Ms. Jalowy states that she is having a hard time understanding it because the land was put into <br /> conservation for a reason and now it is being proposed to modify it. She would like to make u're <br /> the allowances and restrictions are clear. Agent McManus says that the project would need to get <br /> state approval and also to make sure the language is clear because Article 97 states that if a <br /> vegetated area-is disturbed or manipulated than another area would need to be supplied to offset it. <br /> } M . Jalowy says that her other concern is the question of how to return it to a woodland area and if <br /> it fair than it would become a rine . <br /> Mr. Rogers states that he does not have enough facts such as whether it will be tonic or leave an <br /> odor. Mr. Bartel states that based on the core samples that were done 10 years ago it would be <br /> tonic but there would salinity added which would be washed out naturally in a very short period of <br /> time. Mr. Gurnee says that Mr. Bates listed a number of upland disposal sites for review but no <br /> reviews have been submitted and he would like to know ghat happened. Mr. Bates says the <br /> question was if there were any other projects done like this and he found one in Rhode bland with <br /> the Core of Engineers which Mr. Batu had printed out a paragraph to present tonight. The paper ' <br /> 4 <br />