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-4- <br /> Wayne: Basically, the wall is going to be something like this if I interpret this right <br /> shows on a sketch). He is going to have a deadman which comes back and will be anchored <br /> in through here. He might put a pipe or he might even take the pipe and pour around it. <br /> It will act as a fulcrum. The ice action is here and it pushes this wall up and this is <br /> going to act as a lever. The intent of a deadman is to hold the vertical of a wall. But <br /> as far as this, this is going to move up and down with ice acticn because it is lighter <br /> than water and because the water is underneath. Shows where he will need the anchor. You <br /> might only have to go down one foot. So, as long as this is anchored, the ground will <br /> never freeze this and there is no action on this and the freezing action is only at the <br /> face of the wall. So it can't grab it and lift it out. It only puts the pressure against <br /> the front. <br /> Mr. Hecht: I am an abutter. I am just wondering what has been discussed as I just came <br /> in late. <br /> Charles: We primarily discussed two things. First was .the action of the water and the <br /> ice upon a horizontal strata of railroad ties. And the second thing that we were wonder- <br /> ing was whether by placing a .bulkhead within this point it would be deflecting the wave <br /> action and the water action to this point. Of course, that is something that we really <br /> don't know until we try. <br /> Mr. Hecht: Shows where his land is. There is a lot of erosion there. I fully approve of <br /> Larry putting up a protecting wall. <br /> Charles: What we are wondering is whether the presence of your wall has created the prob- <br /> lem here with the scouring action up against your wall and deflecting it down to his <br /> property and washing and we are wondering whether this would continue the action. <br /> Mr. Hecht: I put .the wall in a long time ago ,eight or nine years ago. I had some heavy <br /> spruce tongue and groove boards about lZ inches and I drove them down vertically. I put <br /> an angle at the bottom and they interlocked. The erosion is severe there. My land is all <br /> scoured. It was scoured when I got there, but I did stop the erosion for the past eight <br /> years. Now I need a replacement, too. I would love to see Larry put up a successful wall <br /> and just copy the thing. <br /> Wayne: Basically what I am saying is that it depends on how it is constructed. Even if we <br /> agree to put it in; I hate to see this as an expense to yourself if it doesn't work if it <br /> is put on horizontal. If the Board approved the horizontal ties and it didn't work and you <br /> had this problem that I am mentioning to you, then they are just incurring another expense. <br /> You would be taking out those same ties and installing them vertically or something else. <br /> Mr. Hecht: I put mine in vertically. Of course, they are not as heavy as ties. <br /> Barbara: Not as tall either. _ <br /> Mr. Hecht: I find that this scouring action always brings them forward. <br /> Wayne: They pitch towards the water. <br /> Mr. Hecht: Towards .the water, yes. They are much thinner -- an inch and a half. <br /> Charles: I don't think the thickness of it would. really enter into it. I wonder whether <br /> you would really need to use something as heavy as a railroad tie. <br /> Wayne: Is there a successful horizontal railroad tie retaining wall in New Seabury? <br /> Barbara: That Dr. Brick near the duck pond. <br />