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<br /> Administrative Mtga of Bo
<br /> 6/23/81 ,
<br /> Pace 2 .
<br /> Sel. Thomas asked, "what about your present job?" r. Gould replied
<br /> that he would have to dive his notice there. . * .this is m r i "my
<br /> line, .,- most of tY fel lows r�v had any real supervision
<br /> on any job. r thinly I could dive it to thea, Sel. Thomas asked if
<br /> he was going to apply for the permanent job as Chief. fir. Gould re-
<br /> plied ' that he might late- - "it would he hard to work and het the
<br /> .depar mment in shape, and thea leave" ,
<br /> sel * Thomas asked for information on Mr. Gould' s background. He replied
<br /> that he had been in the New York City Fire Department for 21 years ,
<br /> had been a lieutenant for ten of. those, and a captain, for 4 years. He
<br /> had specialized iri giving fire prevention programs - set them up in
<br /> schools , nursing homes, etc. IHe had presented demonstrations and talks
<br /> to clubs and or ani ations. . .El s , . etc.
<br /> el. Thomas asked how he perceived his role in future planning., Mr.
<br /> stated that this has b eery the problem little planning has been taking
<br /> place. one things he would life to do is emphasize training, using
<br /> mock fires as one method, For instance, there would he a rock fire-
<br /> fighting
<br /> ire-fi hti c exercise played out in, a place like Angelo'.s;- on "a Sunday. He
<br /> also feels there should he k o:re,pre-planning, as'-how o! prepare to
<br /> fight a fire in New Seabury,` as.. ars, example: e l. Tho me' a - entioned that
<br /> she felt "hull sessions' with -Ehe members of the Department are also
<br /> important. Mr. Gould agreed that they are very important. The Chief�
<br /> should observe n epe -atioiV ' n then o. over what happened and point
<br /> out the mistal es. He 1 liev s the men want r
<br /> ntr that "You- have nen up
<br /> there willing to learn - they are always studying and taking courses .
<br /> hm. Garland thea asked if Mr. Gould - felt he could deal. with the
<br /> recalcitrants? Mr. Gould responded that it would tale time, but he
<br /> thinks he can. Chm, Garland then asked, if Mr. Gould does assume the
<br /> position, and someone is not pulling his share - how would he get the
<br /> person back in line? or, would he have the nerve to drop a man if he
<br /> couldn't be brought luck in line Mr. Gould responded that it was his
<br /> intention .to l Post duties , and see that they are performed, a.nd, 2. .
<br /> to have monthly meetings with the men for dive and take, However,, if
<br /> a man disobeys an order, he gets' 3 days without pay, the second time
<br /> he gets a week without pay, and the third time he is "down the road" .
<br /> But he would first male ev ery attempt - and talk to a amara that seemed
<br /> to be headed that way. However, he feels it is life the military -- if
<br /> a Aman disobeys an order, he has to receive some punishment. He also
<br /> feels everything should be in written form. Mr. Gould knows of one
<br /> party in particular who is causing a food deal of trouble up there, and
<br /> will have to he dealt with, sel. Thomas stated that 'if this man's
<br /> energy can be re-directed, he could tura a trouble-maker into an ex-
<br /> cellent officer. Mr.. ould agreed - "exactly"
<br /> Nor. Garland asked if there were any more questions - theme being none,
<br /> he thanked "Scotty" for coming in. Subsequently, Sel. Thomas asked
<br /> hm, Garland if Sel, O'Connell is aware of Mr. Gould' s background and
<br /> his interest In the job. Mr. Garland said yes , he is a good friend of
<br /> Kevin' s. Chm, Garland thea stated that he would like to appoint
<br /> Scotty as Interim Chief , and invite him to file ars application for the
<br /> position of Permanent Fire Chief. He definitely warts someone in. charge
<br /> up there by the time Chief Willis Leaves .
<br /> el. Thomas concured - and thinks Mr. Gould should he asked to have his
<br /> physical as soon as p9ssible - and appointment should confirm to Joe
<br /> eardon' s recommendation, and be for 90 days ,
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